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【medical-news】关于“生命三角”的讨论

救命那个阶段最好?!

院前? 急诊室?

应该是灾难没有发生之前!

chao_he战友提供了这个 “生命三角” 的新视角 http://www.dxy.cn/bbs/post/view?bid=116&id=11853768&sty=1

也有战友提出,这个与 中央台给出的宣传不太一样。

那么我们就借这个平台看一看别的专家,以及美国红十字会 的态度如何。

所谓真理越辩越明,我们就通过几篇文章来学习一下吧。

目的:
1. 学习国外人对不同问题辩论时的逻辑思路,证据为上的态度。
2. 学习证据的高低在科学领域(医学也属于科学)的应用,也指导我们要了解知道证据产生的过程,比自己拿来的巨大不同。
3. 学习如何应用证据。地缘、文化,比如建筑的风格等等的不同,也决定了我们的策略也会不同,如何批判应用接受,验证,正是我们提高自己,找到研究点的关键。 常说的水土不服,常说的“有中国特色”就是建立在这个基础上的。
4. 常说的“外来的和尚会念经”,我们来看看洋和尚如何念不同的经,我们应该如何面对。
5. 这个题目对后面我们开展汇编,面对各种雷同与不同的观点,如何筛选辨别提炼出可以为我所用的内容。

一切言论以学术讨论为目的,谢绝没有授权的转载。

谢谢

Tbag
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美国国际救援小组(ARTI)网址
http://www.amerrescue.org/

我希望找到更多的信息,如果有录像,买下来给过内寄过去。

无意中找到这个文章,应该可以属于官方的态度了。

http://www2.bpaonline.org/Emergencyprep/arc-on-doug-copp.html

American Red Cross response to "Triangle of Life" by Doug Copp
美国红十字会 对 生命三角 的反应


Sent from
Rocky Lopes, PhD
Manager, Community Disaster Education
American Red Cross National Headquarters

Recently it has been brought to my attention that an email from Doug Copp, titled "Triangle of Life," is making its rounds again on the Internet. "Drop, Cover, and Hold On" is CORRECT, accurate, and APPROPRIATE for use in the United States for Earthquake safety. Mr. Copp's assertions in his message that everyone is always crushed if they get under something is incorrect.

Recently, the American Red Cross became aware of a challenge to the earthquake safety advice "Drop, Cover, and Hold On." This is according to information from Mr. Doug Copp, the Rescue Chief and Disaster Manager of American Rescue Team International (a private company not affiliated with the U.S. Government or other agency.) He says that going underneath objects during an earthquake [as in children being told to get under their desks at school] is very dangerous, and fatal should the building collapse in a strong earthquake. He also states that "everyone who gets under a doorway when a building collapses is killed." He further states that "if you are in bed when an earthquake happens, to roll out of bed next to it," and he also says that "If an earthquake happens while you are watching television and you cannot easily escape by getting out the door or window, then lie down and curl up in the fetal position next to a sofa, or large chair." These recommendations are inaccurate for application in the United States and inconsistent with information developed through earthquake research. Mr. Copp based his statements on observations of damage to buildings after an earthquake in Turkey. It is like "apples and oranges" to compare building construction standards, techniques, engineering principles, and construction materials between Turkey and the United States.

We at the American Red Cross have studied the research on the topic of earthquake safety for many years. We have benefited from extensive research done by the California Office of Emergency Services, California Seismic Safety Commission, professional and academic research organizations, and emergency management agencies, who have also studied the recommendation to "drop, cover, and hold on!" during the shaking of an earthquake. Personally, I have also benefited from those who preceded me in doing earthquake education in California since the Field Act was passed in 1933.

What the claims made by Mr. Copp of ARTI, Inc., does not seem to distinguish is that the recommendation to "drop, cover, and hold on!" is a U.S.-based recommendation based on U.S. Building Codes and construction standards. Much research in the United States has confirmed that "Drop, Cover, and Hold On!" has saved lives in the United States. Engineering researchers have demonstrated that very few buildings collapse or "pancake" in the U.S. as they might do in other countries. Using a web site to show one picture of one U.S. building that had a partial collapse after a major quake in an area with thousands of buildings that did not collapse during the same quake is inappropriate and misleading.

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作者:admin@医学,生命科学    2010-10-25 17:11
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